March 8, 2024

Lindsey & Tammy: From Job Loss to 23k First Flip Profit in 3.5 Months in Pennsylvania

Our FlipSisters Lindsey and Tammy in Pennsylvania are sharing their first flip journey with us! Not long after joining our coaching program, Tammy was surprisingly laid off from her job. What felt like a stressful situation in the moment, may have been just the push she needed to make things happen. And make things happen she did! Within a week, they were under contract to buy their first flip, which led to a $23,000 profit in 3.5 months. Listen in to hear: How they found the d...

Our FlipSisters Lindsey and Tammy in Pennsylvania are sharing their first flip journey with us!

Not long after joining our coaching program, Tammy was surprisingly laid off from her job. What felt like a stressful situation in the moment, may have been just the push she needed to make things happen. 

And make things happen she did! Within a week, they were under contract to buy their first flip, which led to a $23,000 profit in 3.5 months. 

Listen in to hear:

  • How they found the deal
  • How they financed the deal
  • How they managed the project
  • The mindset shifts that had to happen
  • Their biggest lessons learned


...and so much more!

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Hey there, thanks for hanging out with us today.

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In this episode I'm introducing you to Tammy and Lindsay, who are a couple of our flip sisters in our coaching program in Pennsylvania.

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They completed their first flip and actually, since recording this episode, they've completed and sold their second flip as well.

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So big congrats to them on that.

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In this episode, we're going to be covering their first flip, how they found it, how they financed it, how they handled the challenges that came up, and we'll also talk about how, shortly after joining our program, tammy actually lost her job and that became a pretty strong catalyst for getting their first flip under contract.

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I think it was within maybe a week that they went under contract on their first flip.

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After that happened, and how, in the moment, something stressful happening like losing a job, losing that steady income, actually becomes a blessing and allows us to move forward toward something we really really want, which in her case, it was having this business flipping houses, which led to a $23,000 profit in three and a half months on their first flip, and on their second flip they actually made $22,000 in two weeks Amazing.

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We're going to get into all of that in so much more.

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You're going to love them.

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Let's meet Tammy and Lindsay.

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So do you want to start out by introducing yourselves we get an awesome two for one today and just letting us know who you are and where you are and what you're up to in the world aside from flipping houses.

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Yeah, sure, so I'll go first.

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My name is Tammy.

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I live in Harrisburg, pennsylvania, with my wife, lindsay, who's joined me here today, and with our three young boys, 10 years old and seven year old twins actually almost eight, but seven year old twins.

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So I actually used to be a P and health teacher for about seven years prior to my twins being born and then, when they were born, I decided we kind of had a conversation about it and decided to take a step away from teaching and take on probably one of the most rewarding but difficult jobs in the world and that's being a stay at home mom.

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So we start.

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I started that not long after the twins were born and then we moved from Florida to Pennsylvania in 2017.

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And it was around that time that I guess the dreamer in me kind of started to develop a little bit, because my mind was thinking like, well, I'm gonna stay at home mom, but what can I do to kind of help support my family?

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So at that time it was we owned a camper and I decided I was going to start renting it.

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So a little side hustle job that turned into actually over the next few years are very good successful business.

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I mean it was.

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I ended up managing other people's RVs and I had about an inventory of about 20 units nice, which was great but I realized it was just unsustainable for me to be a stay at home mom and to run this type of business.

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So it was 2020 that I ended up selling off that business, and then this past summer was when well, no, so then I still bought that business and then I stepped into a corporate position as a franchise support manager in the RV rental business and did that for about two years before I unexpectedly, this past summer, was let go of my job.

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Well, did not see that coming at all, but I think the worst part of it, the hardest part of it, was I couldn't even collect unemployment, so so we were a little little shook up, but but anyway, since then, real estate investing has become my main focus, my job basically.

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But during our first flip, there was something that sparked a little inspiration in me that I realized that, doing the hands on stuff that I love doing, I could actually use that skill and serve others.

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And so I started a little small business where you know I'm offering like house cleaning and painting and like little little honeydew list stuff.

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So I kind of I'm on the ground floor of that, but so we'll see where that takes me.

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So that's kind of what I've been doing, and I'll let Lindsay introduce herself about what she does.

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Well, I do not have quite a story.

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Oh, the boring one.

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Okay, here we go.

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The boring one, yeah.

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I have been, she's not.

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Yeah, I have been a nurse for almost the last 20 years and I absolutely love it.

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It's wonderful, it's my passion and I'm a nurse supervisor now.

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So a lot of the skills that I've learned as supervising people, I'm being a team manager, I'm really, you know, helping Tammy out when she's going through contract or conversations and managing the people in those ways, and I'm like you know.

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This reminds me of one of my employees and this is what I would do and just I'm being like her sounding board when it comes to that kind of thing.

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But I didn't have a big career changes that she had.

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Think of her.

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I do all her entrepreneurial things and I'm just here supporting.

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That's awesome.

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So you recently closed on your first slip, which was literally so freaking cute.

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That house is so cute, it's so cute I want to squish it.

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It's just it's really cute and you did an awesome job.

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So I want to hear all about it.

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I want to hear how long.

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Okay, so this is interesting, right?

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Isn't it interesting in hindsight?

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Like, yeah, it sucked that you lost your job.

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That felt pretty bad, Like 10.

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Mm-hmm, super punch for real, yeah.

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And didn't it kind of need to happen?

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Yeah, 100% yeah 100% you could have said it better because I was in a position with my job where so many changes had taken place over the course of I don't know a few months, maybe six months, that it had become unenjoyable.

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It was stressful.

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It never turned off, but for me it was a job and I was committed to working my job because I was supporting my family.

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In hindsight, here I was, you know, getting into real estate, investing because it started as like a side hustle.

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You know we were going to be doing this on the side of both of our full-time jobs.

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Like most people, do you know it's not something you typically start when you don't have a job Right, you just don't do that.

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So you know, getting into this, yeah, it was 100% God's way of totally, just, you know, pushing me into the next chapter of my life, whatever that was.

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I still don't, you know, I'm still kind of figuring that out, but I'm trusting the process and I'm very open-minded to knowing that there's a plan for me and that everything's going to be okay and I'm just going to apply when I'm learning the people that I'm meeting and all of it, and just kind of seeing what happens.

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You know, I'm not living in fear.

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I just want to walk in faith and just trust the process.

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Yeah that's awesome.

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That's what we're doing, yeah, yeah.

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It's those things.

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They're usually the thing that was most necessary to get us where we're supposed to be next, because we weren't doing it on our own, and so it's like universal or God, whatever anybody calls it.

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Right, okay, so you didn't.

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So here you go, I'm just going to flick you off the edge and you're going to be okay, but you're going to kind of feel a little bit out of sorts for a while.

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Yeah, yeah, it was the day that I lost my job.

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I picked up the phone and I called my wholesaler that I had been working with and I said, I said listen, I said I just lost my job.

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Today I'm super motivated.

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I got to find a house, you know.

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So I was like, just keep me on my on your radar, just think of me when you're out there.

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And he's like, okay, I got you.

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You know, it was like, you know, he was kind of looking out for me and I felt that we had developed a good relationship and so, you know, I just wanted him to know the position that I was in.

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And so from there, we, you know, we walked a couple more properties and put in some offers, but nothing yet.

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And I think it was like three weeks to the day that we losing my job that he called me up and he was like hey, you know, that house that you looked at I think it was about a month and a half ago it was priced at 135, 135,000.

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I think our offer that we had put it on it was around 95,000.

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Of course it was too high.

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It was not something they were willing to go with.

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He, and actually it was a couple of weeks later, they had come down to 115.

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Obviously was still too high, right, but anyway, he was calling me to let me know that the it was an estate sale or whatever and it was the attorney that was trying to get rid of the property.

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I guess the family was having a lot of issues and he and she was like hey, listen, I need to get this household, so we're going to drop it down to a hundred thousand.

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And so he called me and he's like Listen, I want to give you the first opportunity to purchase this property.

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You know.

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He's like I know you're in a position, you are.

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And I said Okay, I said I tell what Lindsay know.

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And I said let's go walk the property again, let me get my eyes on it again.

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And during walking that property I'm thinking in the back of my head Okay, now that I have extra time and I love having my hands on projects that factored into knowing that I could put a little bit of sweat equity into this and I could make these numbers numbers work.

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So we said, okay, let's put in an offer of a hundred thousand, and we did and the number was accepted.

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So we were super excited and I think we closed.

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We would have closed in a couple of weeks, but we we had a big like week long vacation coming up that it would have put it right in that time and we were like you know, can we close in three weeks?

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And they said, yeah, that's no problem.

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So we ended up closing in the end of August, august 21st, august 21st, yeah.

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So Okay so a hundred.

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K.

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And what were you thinking?

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the repairs would be so at the time because my my contractor had walked the property with me to give me a rehab estimate.

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I think we were sitting thinking around 58,000, maybe maybe 58 to 60,000.

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And then it was more of.

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I was telling my contractor, hey, these are my numbers, and like we have to make this work in this amount of you know this estimate, he's like, okay, okay, yes, that's, we'll make those numbers work.

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We got this so.

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So when we got under contract, we got an inspector in there right away to have an inspection done on the property and when he completed the inspection he called me up afterwards and he said so he was kind of going through the list of things and he said, so you're planning on replacing the roof on this house, right?

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And I was like, um, no, that was actually one of the out of everything we were doing to this house like completely doing everything, the one thing we kind of were passing on because we thought it, I mean in my contractor said, no, it looks okay, you know, it just needs to be cleaned up so, and he said no, that that roof needs to be replaced.

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So I said, okay, let me go my contractor.

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So I called my contractor and I said you know we got to replace the roof and how much is that going to cost us?

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And he said, oh, you're, you're looking at about $8,000.

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And I said, hmm, that's not going to work.

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I said we got to figure something else out.

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So I we live in a community with a lot of Amish that do phenomenal work and for good prices to do, and I said you know, I'm going to replace the roof.

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I called a community with a lot of Amish that do phenomenal work and for good prices too.

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So I said let me call around.

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I called a couple people that I'd found in a Facebook group and then her father is works for a building yeah, custom home builder.

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So he was like you know what, lindsay?

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there was a guy who called me today and he said are you looking for?

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We have these services, we do roofs, could you use us?

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And he's like no, we have a guy we use all the time.

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He passed along his number.

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I said, tammy, this guy sounds great and I'm not because it you know, what I was finding with the other roofers that we were getting in contact with is, even if they could, there was something that couldn't even come out and put an estimate on the house for like a month.

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Yeah, just an estimate.

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And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I was like this is not going to work.

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So he was like, oh, I can be out tomorrow to give you an estimate.

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So he did and it was what?

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Like $5,400.

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I'm like, okay, that's better, this is something we can work.

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Yeah, that was much better.

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So yeah.

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And then he's like, oh, and I can, I can start in a couple of days.

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And I was like, so he ended up being a wonderful.

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Some of the contractors that I had had at the house while they were putting on the roof they're like, yeah, he's, he's doing it right.

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So, cause hell, we were kind of worried, just kind of going with the lowest price and whatnot.

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So but yeah, so he ended up working out well.

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So that obviously pushed our rehab up a little bit higher than than we were anticipating, and I would say so with the roof we ended up only going over maybe a couple of thousand more of that initial, because we were right around like 67,000 total with the roof and and everything.

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So there any any other surprise repairs that came up?

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I'm surprised repairs, I don't think so no it wasn't.

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No, we I mean, we kind of knew what we were getting into with the HVAC, but because we put it in a whole new system Originally, we thought, cause it had a mini split system and again, the things you learn as you go through this we thought that was going to be suffice.

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And my electrician, or the plumbing electrician guy, was like you know?

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No, this is.

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You know, we got to put in a whole new system.

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So that was initially what we talked about in the beginning, but it wasn't any surprises.

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Everything seemed to go pretty good as far as everything else we the roof was the main thing we just weren't anticipating yeah.

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And then Okay, so three weeks to close, all right.

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Oh, how did you finance it?

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So Tammy is like a great relationship builder and did all this due diligence and finding HMLs and had it all lined up.

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And then we said, you know what?

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We have a family member who their situation isn't just sold a business, they're looking to invest.

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Let's see if they're available to be a PML.

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So we put together a nice little PowerPoint and said guys want to fund the purchase price.

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And then we went a little bit further and said the second option is would you like to fund the purchase price plus half of the rehab, and then we'll fund the other hand.

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And they said okay, and we went with them.

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Yeah.

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It worked out for everyone, yeah.

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Yeah, it was just a matter of you know, just asking you know, because you just never know, you don't and what I'm finding out is a lot of people don't know that they can invest like this.

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You know, and now that you know, I'm learning more about it there's a lot of people, a lot of people, that do this type of investing and private money lending yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, obviously, we didn't know anything about either.

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So they're out there and they're willing to loan money, which obviously they're getting a great return, absolutely 100%.

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So my first that was one of my first lessons was don't judge somebody like like the amount of money they might have.

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My first private money lender was a preschool teacher.

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Had been a preschool teacher for 25 years.

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Never in a million years did I ever think that she had this statue.

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No, she did.

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She had a statue and she's like oh, yeah.

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And I was just like what are you even talking about, man?

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Who are you?

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Yeah, but yeah, you never know.

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And of course, when I was brand new I didn't know either.

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I wasn't thinking about it as an investor, but it's my favorite vehicle.

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Being a private money lender to somebody is awesome.

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I love that.

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And on the flip side, like asking, like don't be scared to ask because a lot of people just don't even know, they don't know how they can be protected.

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You know so, people just don't know.

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So, yeah, yeah.

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So you got all your funding well, some of your funding, the purchase price and then half of the repairs from private money lender a family member and then you funded the rest.

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Okay, from purchase to sale.

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What was the timeline?

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From purchase, basically clothes to close.

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Yeah, was three and a half months.

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Yeah, Very nice, three and a half months from clothes to close.

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So, yeah, I think it could have, looking back and the little bumps that we went along the way, it could have been a little bit quicker.

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I mean, we had initially planned on having it done about two weeks.

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Sooner or later it ended up and it really could have been.

00:18:17.025 --> 00:18:17.086
It.

00:18:17.286 --> 00:18:25.978
Just, you know the things that come along and the contractor's not showing up and you know those kind of things that you have to investigate and fix.

00:18:25.978 --> 00:18:38.233
But now I think I've learned, moving forward, because I've talked to so many people doing the same thing, just locally, and it's a common thing and we're not alone with having that experience.

00:18:38.233 --> 00:18:45.638
So, because I honestly thought it was like the cloud was over us, you know, and happening to us, but yeah, it really it couldn't happen.

00:18:45.638 --> 00:18:55.664
And so it's just what I learned from it is, you know, being stern and being organized and having that conversation to find out what's going on, so that you're talking through it.

00:18:55.664 --> 00:19:08.163
You know, communication basically is the key and with my head contractor we have developed a good relationship to where, even if we do come across some hurdles and some bumps.

00:19:08.163 --> 00:19:09.626
I can talk to them.

00:19:09.626 --> 00:19:13.016
We can talk through things and communicate and work things through.

00:19:13.016 --> 00:19:15.481
So that's been really helpful for me.

00:19:15.701 --> 00:19:20.301
Yeah, it doesn't have to be a confrontation, it can just be a conversation, right, right?

00:19:20.990 --> 00:19:22.957
It can just be a conversation, yeah.

00:19:23.317 --> 00:19:25.807
Right, the tone is everything, yeah.

00:19:26.368 --> 00:19:27.592
I don't like confrontation.

00:19:27.592 --> 00:19:34.095
You know, I don't like to have to get mad at someone or to kind of point out the flaws or something like that.

00:19:34.095 --> 00:19:40.394
But I'm willing to be like hey, you know, you don't have to handle it that way, Come to me next time.

00:19:40.394 --> 00:19:47.454
Or you know, like, rather than trying to sneak around or do it your way or whatever, let's just talk about it.

00:19:47.573 --> 00:19:49.045
We'll figure it out together.

00:19:49.045 --> 00:19:53.883
You know, because the way I was looking at it I was like you're playing with my emotions right now.

00:19:53.883 --> 00:19:56.852
You know I'm needing to take this seriously.

00:19:56.852 --> 00:20:00.259
So you know you're not the only one involved, you know.

00:20:00.259 --> 00:20:00.660
So.

00:20:01.121 --> 00:20:17.179
But I think the thing is to consider is that most contractors, if something happens, the person that hired them, the person they're working for, it's not a conversation.

00:20:17.179 --> 00:20:23.507
It becomes a big thing that prevents them from wanting to just have a conversation about it.

00:20:23.507 --> 00:20:30.758
They don't want to talk about it, so they're going to hide it, or they're going to not show up for a little bit and kind of hope it goes away, or they're going to.

00:20:30.758 --> 00:20:34.719
Maybe something comes up and they really need to go finish this one other thing over here.

00:20:34.719 --> 00:20:36.587
Like they just need to go finish this one thing.

00:20:36.587 --> 00:20:47.727
They'll be back and instead of just communicating that, because the person you know, they assume the person's going to get super mad, yeah, they do it, and so you're left in the.

00:20:47.727 --> 00:20:49.853
Where are they and are they ever going to come back?

00:20:49.853 --> 00:20:52.480
All because everyone's scared of communicating.

00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:52.619
Right.

00:20:53.730 --> 00:20:55.955
Over promising, under delivering.

00:20:55.955 --> 00:20:56.817
You know the kind of thing.

00:20:56.817 --> 00:20:58.342
You just talk to me.

00:20:58.342 --> 00:21:00.815
Let's like just be real with me.

00:21:00.815 --> 00:21:08.648
You know, and that's which you know, I still have a great relationship with all the contractors I work with and you know I think that we all learned from it.

00:21:08.648 --> 00:21:10.192
We all did.

00:21:10.512 --> 00:21:10.814
For sure.

00:21:10.814 --> 00:21:12.276
So it was a great experience.

00:21:12.276 --> 00:21:30.478
Yeah, it's, I think, one of the things that anytime I work with a new contractor or vendor or something, one of the things that they'll say to me is I've never been able to make a mistake.

00:21:30.478 --> 00:21:36.374
If I make a mistake, you know it's like a shaming experience versus I screwed up, I'm going to fix it.

00:21:36.374 --> 00:21:43.481
You know, this is how I'm going to fix it, but I'm just owning up to I screwed up because it's like nope, everybody has to be perfect.

00:21:43.481 --> 00:21:57.819
We can't make mistakes when in reality, we're making mistakes all the freaking time, like we're just like recovering from the stakes all the time, which is the that's the point but we're also so scared to screw up Like it's like this weird world we live in.

00:21:57.901 --> 00:21:58.060
Yeah.

00:22:00.487 --> 00:22:03.576
So what kind of things did you do?

00:22:03.576 --> 00:22:06.374
You said you did some of the work that you like to be hands on.

00:22:06.374 --> 00:22:07.307
What kind of things did you do?

00:22:08.464 --> 00:22:08.806
Yeah.

00:22:08.806 --> 00:22:13.051
So let's say, some of the things that I ended up doing were I did the painting.

00:22:13.051 --> 00:22:29.347
So the house was parceled as a three bedroom, but the third bedroom upstairs you'd have to walk through the master or the primary bedroom to get to it.

00:22:29.347 --> 00:22:35.585
So it's like either make it in which smaller to create a hallway, and then it would have been a super tiny bedroom.

00:22:35.585 --> 00:22:39.267
So I was like well, this isn't a work, so it was actually her idea, that's his idea.

00:22:39.347 --> 00:22:42.551
That was like why don't we turn this into a primary?

00:22:42.551 --> 00:22:47.428
Let's see like a bath, like it's a great idea, so anyway.

00:22:47.428 --> 00:22:47.930
So what?

00:22:47.930 --> 00:22:48.612
We didn't have any.

00:22:48.612 --> 00:22:50.007
Obviously we didn't.

00:22:50.007 --> 00:23:04.393
I didn't do the hands on the nap, but what I was getting at was we had to run the plumbing actually down, and so we had to create like a little box and the plumbing that ran down to the kitchen and there was this little awkward kind of corner that I was like, well, we can't do it this space.

00:23:04.393 --> 00:23:08.911
And so I came up with the idea of doing like a little built-in drop zone.

00:23:08.911 --> 00:23:12.734
So I built a little bench and put a little coat right in it.

00:23:12.734 --> 00:23:18.030
It just really fit the space so perfectly and it almost looked like it was meant to be there.

00:23:18.291 --> 00:23:19.295
Yeah, it was gorgeous.

00:23:19.664 --> 00:23:26.877
So it was fun, but I did a lot of the exterior stuff, like the landscaping.

00:23:26.877 --> 00:23:32.416
I pressure washed the towels, I did.

00:23:32.416 --> 00:23:33.098
What else did I do?

00:23:33.098 --> 00:23:37.353
Oh no, I didn't do the driveway, but I made a lot of that.

00:23:37.353 --> 00:23:41.695
But oh the, I don't know if you noticed the cedar post on the outside.

00:23:41.695 --> 00:23:51.354
Oh yeah, so yeah, my dad actually flew up from Georgia for about a week to help with little odd jobs and so we did that and we built the shutters, we built the shutters.

00:23:51.575 --> 00:23:53.458
Oh yeah, that's right, the shutters project.

00:23:53.458 --> 00:23:54.381
Yes, I remember that.

00:23:54.461 --> 00:23:59.512
Yeah, the shutters project and then just little knick-knacky stuff like the little number plate that's on the front.

00:23:59.512 --> 00:24:06.112
I made that from scrap Little things like that and back splash Like the doing the back splash.

00:24:06.664 --> 00:24:10.214
So it's stuff that I wasn't ever prepared to do.

00:24:10.214 --> 00:24:13.771
When we started this, I wasn't planning on handling all that.

00:24:13.771 --> 00:24:15.330
Now do I enjoy doing that stuff?

00:24:15.330 --> 00:24:16.186
But I was.

00:24:16.186 --> 00:24:25.691
We were looking at having some other people do this and having maybe a little bit of hands on, but we knew that the time wasn't going to allow for that of having two full-time jobs.

00:24:25.691 --> 00:24:35.073
So now that I was available, right, I just was all about jumping in and I loved it every day I loved it, I really did, I really did.

00:24:35.325 --> 00:24:47.112
Well, the touches that you did, took it from house to home, like that's what made it charming was the number plate and the bench, and like all of that is what made it charming.

00:24:47.112 --> 00:24:49.326
Yeah, yeah, ok.

00:24:49.326 --> 00:24:50.369
So wait, was it a?

00:24:50.369 --> 00:24:51.653
So was it a 3-1?

00:24:51.653 --> 00:24:53.632
And you made it into a 2-2?

00:24:54.587 --> 00:24:54.868
2-2.

00:24:54.868 --> 00:24:56.087
Yeah, it was part of.

00:24:56.087 --> 00:25:04.474
It was a 3-1, which I was like how Like there was no closet in the third bedroom, so it was it was very strange, it was just a weird layout.

00:25:05.209 --> 00:25:07.241
It was a bedroom wink.

00:25:07.241 --> 00:25:10.654
Did y'all go into it thinking you were going to make it a 2-2?

00:25:10.654 --> 00:25:11.875
Was that the plan from the start?

00:25:11.875 --> 00:25:14.392
Yes, yes, ok, gotcha OK, cool.

00:25:14.625 --> 00:25:23.472
Well, when we initially saw it, when we were walking it, no, but when we decided to put the offering on it and we were coming up with the rehab yes, that's when we were for sure.

00:25:23.565 --> 00:25:33.592
Ok, it seems like it was pretty straightforward, Like you don't have any, you didn't have any issues and problems, and well we had.

00:25:33.731 --> 00:25:40.925
well, we didn't have any problems or issues with what the rehab entailed we did.

00:25:40.925 --> 00:25:44.368
I did have a little bit of a bumps along the way with some contractors.

00:25:44.368 --> 00:25:59.874
So so to kind of back up a little bit on how I handled that situation, we went into this with a general contractor, an actual general contractor that we had used on our own renovation of our house what two years prior and you know a really good experience with that.

00:25:59.984 --> 00:26:02.493
Again, it's a bumps, but we were able to communicate through it.

00:26:02.493 --> 00:26:07.049
So I felt like we had established a relationship that was trusting and that I would work with you again.

00:26:07.049 --> 00:26:25.631
So he initially came on as a general contractor and because of the whole roof situation, he came to me prior to getting started and he said hey, he said you know how would you feel about if you work directly with the plumber or electrician contractor to save you a little bit of money there?

00:26:25.631 --> 00:26:33.070
I feel like if you wanted to deal with him directly, that would help you out, because he knew that you know, our budget had shifted a little bit because of the roof and everything.

00:26:33.070 --> 00:26:36.295
So I said, yeah, that's not a problem at all.

00:26:36.295 --> 00:26:38.452
You know, I don't mind working directly with him.

00:26:38.644 --> 00:26:46.571
So I got together with that contractor and got everything set up and of course he wanted to kind of you know, help out with the situation as well.

00:26:46.571 --> 00:26:56.005
And he said you know, I have a guy that's a drill waller that could, you know, come in and do it for about half of what you're being quoted and kind of help you out.

00:26:56.005 --> 00:27:01.397
So of course I was like, ok, that sounds great and everything sounded good.

00:27:01.397 --> 00:27:09.611
He's like you know, I got a guy and he could be here tomorrow, and the other guy was like you know, we didn't know when they could come in and it was a little bit more costly.

00:27:09.611 --> 00:27:13.193
So I was like OK, so I kind of let him take the lead on that.

00:27:13.193 --> 00:27:18.817
And, long story short, it kind of became a little bit of a nightmare.

00:27:18.817 --> 00:27:27.346
So he said the contractor, drywaller, wasn't showing up when initially we started and I was like what's going on, you know?

00:27:27.346 --> 00:27:29.359
And he said well, he said he'd be here.

00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:30.045
I'm not quite sure.

00:27:30.045 --> 00:27:40.913
So that kind of went on for a little bit and then he finally did show up and he did about half of what he was supposed to do, which was great, he did a good job and, you know, was doing well.

00:27:40.913 --> 00:27:43.553
But then it wasn't showing up again.

00:27:43.553 --> 00:27:57.150
So on that, of course I was going to my conch, my stuff that I was working with, because of course at this time I couldn't go back to my general contractor because he's, you know, he's not in it with this part and he's like I don't know.

00:27:57.150 --> 00:27:58.832
He's telling me he's going to be here.

00:27:58.832 --> 00:28:00.633
You know that that kind of game.

00:28:00.726 --> 00:28:02.865
So I just kind of wrote it out for a little bit.

00:28:02.865 --> 00:28:05.845
So we're finally as like, I got to do some investigating.

00:28:05.845 --> 00:28:12.094
So I found a way to reach out to the contractor myself to say for myself to be like what's going on?

00:28:12.094 --> 00:28:23.676
You're halfway through the job, why you're telling my guy you're coming, but then you don't show up, well to find out he hadn't received a penny on anything.

00:28:23.676 --> 00:28:25.332
And so you know how it is.

00:28:25.332 --> 00:28:28.314
Yeah, I'm not going to get back up if I'm not getting paid.

00:28:28.314 --> 00:28:36.009
So you know, again, I don't like confrontation, so I didn't get into going back to my contractor and saying hey, what's going on here?

00:28:36.009 --> 00:28:42.753
I simply just said hey, you know what, come to me tomorrow, show up, I'll pay you, you know, to deal with me.

00:28:42.753 --> 00:28:49.019
So then I kind of had him starting to work under me and we all just went about our thing and things got moving again.

00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:49.201
Mm, hmm.

00:28:50.067 --> 00:29:04.144
So things were good, you know, and I just kind of let things ride out, you know, like again I didn't, I didn't create confrontation and stuff, but and everything kept moving and we got delayed because of the drywall or everything else was delayed.

00:29:04.807 --> 00:29:05.749
As you know that.

00:29:05.788 --> 00:29:23.181
Just everything down as a matter of fact, debbie, I don't know if you remember this we were having our countertops measured, oh my gosh, and we did not have in our kitchen, and we did not have insulation or walls up the night before they would come out.

00:29:23.711 --> 00:29:24.193
Oh God.

00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:28.654
And I was like and so he's like he can't promise me he's going to, I'm going to get it done.

00:29:28.654 --> 00:29:36.615
I'm like you know, walls up right now the kitchen cabinets aren't even in, so it was literally the next day.

00:29:36.615 --> 00:29:38.701
They were at the last minute getting everything.

00:29:38.701 --> 00:29:40.215
I don't know how they pulled it off.

00:29:40.215 --> 00:29:44.515
There was three of them putting it together 7 AM.

00:29:44.515 --> 00:29:45.974
Yeah, they were there early.

00:29:46.690 --> 00:29:54.382
The guy did show up to measure the countertops and he said actually our sink had to be in.

00:29:54.382 --> 00:29:58.019
It was a farmhouse sink, which the contractor, I guess, didn't realize that.

00:29:58.019 --> 00:29:59.535
So he said that's how you what?

00:29:59.535 --> 00:30:01.535
I have other jobs I can go do.

00:30:01.535 --> 00:30:03.594
I'll come back and I'll sink, thank you God.

00:30:03.594 --> 00:30:11.320
So yeah, that's kind of how we were and I don't like pressure like that to where we're waiting to last minute.

00:30:11.320 --> 00:30:16.893
I mean fascinating a little bit, but that's just too much extreme, that's extreme.

00:30:16.893 --> 00:30:18.353
So I don't know.

00:30:18.353 --> 00:30:23.555
I mean he was my contractor, had to have been just stressing himself out doing that.

00:30:23.555 --> 00:30:30.496
But yeah, that's the kind of little stuff that we were dealing with which in the end I look back and I'm like OK that was fun.

00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:32.453
Yeah, let's do that again.

00:30:34.369 --> 00:30:35.535
Yeah, and her roller coaster.

00:30:35.535 --> 00:30:38.497
Yes, yes, Sure, you were a little stressed out there.

00:30:39.058 --> 00:30:50.461
Oh yeah, I had some tears in the beginning, for sure, because that first week when we closed we closed on a Monday yeah, that first week I was the only one showing up For a whole week.

00:30:50.461 --> 00:30:58.934
For a whole week and my contractor was like, don't worry, Everything's getting material ordered, we're measuring for stuff, Like he reassured me that.

00:30:58.934 --> 00:31:02.275
Well then, Right, I'm like what.

00:31:02.275 --> 00:31:04.851
I'm the only one showing up Like.

00:31:04.851 --> 00:31:06.979
This is not how it's supposed to be.

00:31:07.913 --> 00:31:08.776
I wasn't here.

00:31:08.776 --> 00:31:18.337
I know she was like demoing by herself trying to record herself and the camera was falling off the ladder and she's like watch this video.

00:31:18.337 --> 00:31:21.156
I took it for the boy and I'm like this is a terrible video.

00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:35.398
I've got just the ceiling, I'm like so fun, yeah, but I came home at night and I definitely had some tears, but I had the support of Lindsay and the support of the group.

00:31:35.881 --> 00:31:36.040
Yeah.

00:31:36.769 --> 00:31:39.880
Helping us reset our mind that we can do this.

00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:41.375
We're here for a reason.

00:31:41.375 --> 00:31:43.816
This didn't happen just by chance.

00:31:43.816 --> 00:31:46.451
So we're here and yeah.

00:31:46.451 --> 00:31:49.401
So we just kind of refocused and made it happen.

00:31:49.401 --> 00:31:52.413
But yeah, that's what made the challenges are what make it fun.

00:31:53.471 --> 00:31:58.913
Honestly, if there were problems to solve along the way, what is it Like, honestly?

00:31:58.913 --> 00:32:00.417
Would it be rewarding?

00:32:00.417 --> 00:32:02.373
I don't know, I really don't know.

00:32:03.016 --> 00:32:04.599
Yeah, I think it's part of it.

00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:06.515
I think it's part of it.

00:32:06.515 --> 00:32:14.738
Yeah, I agree If we could pick and choose what our hearts were, though Like maybe some medium hearts, not some super-duper hearts.

00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:21.795
Yeah, or just have that magical ball to know that it's going to work out.

00:32:21.855 --> 00:32:25.297
No, matter what, I can't give you all the challenges you got.

00:32:25.297 --> 00:32:26.374
I know it's going to work out.

00:32:26.374 --> 00:32:27.237
I'll be fine.

00:32:27.237 --> 00:32:28.053
I'll be fine.

00:32:28.053 --> 00:32:30.031
What would y'all say?

00:32:30.031 --> 00:32:33.019
Your roles were in the business.

00:32:33.549 --> 00:32:51.998
OK, so for me I did a lot of the late work kind of in the beginning too, because I worked from home when I did have my job, but I was waking up extra early to be able to put it in my work hours so that I could open up my afternoon to be able to walk property.

00:32:51.998 --> 00:33:00.134
So I basically put in my hours early so if an opportunity came to walk the property and putting in the offer, so I was doing a lot of the.

00:33:00.134 --> 00:33:16.458
I don't even know that we joke about this, that she hasn't even seen our real estate agent since we first met her months ago, Because I'm the one that meets with her, walks the properties and then we talk about putting in the offers together and stuff like that.

00:33:16.458 --> 00:33:28.717
But so I kind of took that role on in doing a lot of the late work of that part, and you, I get to do my favorite thing I get to do what I get to find bargains and go shopping.

00:33:28.849 --> 00:33:32.237
Yeah, it is so exciting.

00:33:32.589 --> 00:33:34.436
She'll say you have this much money.

00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:36.993
Try to find better and I will find better.

00:33:37.154 --> 00:33:37.757
I love it.

00:33:37.757 --> 00:33:40.808
I love it, yes On everything, yeah.

00:33:41.230 --> 00:33:44.019
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love to shop.

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:48.448
I love to shop, but I tend to be a little bit well.

00:33:48.448 --> 00:33:55.619
Yeah, she goes after it, she puts it together and then we like to collaborate on this stuff together.

00:33:55.619 --> 00:34:08.896
But it's nice that she can present me with stuff rather than me having to go out and find it and find the deals she loves to do that and I just don't Like I'm a painful price for something just because I don't want to have to like sip or something.

00:34:09.057 --> 00:34:12.121
Yeah, yeah, no, I totally get that yeah.

00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:16.434
She loves the bargain, she loves the sale, so go for it.

00:34:16.735 --> 00:34:20.860
Find it and we're like really lucky because we agree on a lot of things.

00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:24.280
So I can say I found this stuff I know you're going to love.

00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.773
You have A, b or C, which one do you like and tip it's.

00:34:27.773 --> 00:34:29.076
Usually we agree on that.

00:34:29.097 --> 00:34:29.878
Yeah, for the bus ride.

00:34:29.878 --> 00:34:30.942
Yeah, we agree on stuff.

00:34:30.942 --> 00:34:36.235
We might have to talk each other through why one is better than the other, but it's not.

00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:38.695
Would you say we're like the yin and yang?

00:34:38.695 --> 00:34:39.860
Yeah, yin and yang.

00:34:39.860 --> 00:34:42.458
We definitely complement each other with that kind of thing.

00:34:42.458 --> 00:34:43.855
What did you label me as?

00:34:43.855 --> 00:34:47.818
You're the chip to my Joanna, the gains, yeah.

00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:49.773
Love it, so you're the design.

00:34:50.510 --> 00:34:54.099
I am, but she sees the whole picture.

00:34:54.099 --> 00:34:58.375
She'll look at the kitchen and say I want the refrigerator here and I want the layout like this.

00:34:58.375 --> 00:35:03.896
And then I'm like but I want the warm wood tones and I'm going to bring in a really cool fan yeah.

00:35:03.896 --> 00:35:06.121
Really cool light, yeah, all of that.

00:35:06.222 --> 00:35:09.679
Yeah, I'm more of like the layout, the layout of how things are going to feel.

00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.581
She's the designer of what's going to go where and that kind of thing.

00:35:14.581 --> 00:35:20.375
But what really brought everything together was our stagier, our staging on this house.

00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:24.079
You can't, you cannot skimp on the stagier.

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:30.152
Don't like people who are like, oh it's fine, you don't need staging, you know it'll sell.

00:35:30.152 --> 00:35:31.898
I'm sure it will.

00:35:31.898 --> 00:35:38.565
But I promise you it will look better and you will get more money if you stage it with a stagier that does a good job.

00:35:38.565 --> 00:35:39.608
Yeah, yeah.

00:35:39.750 --> 00:35:47.123
That house was amazing, yeah, and it needed it too, because this house was a very exciting Right.

00:35:47.123 --> 00:35:48.273
What was the square footage?

00:35:48.273 --> 00:35:51.014
I don't know, maybe just at 1,000.

00:35:51.014 --> 00:35:52.353
Yeah, just 1,000.

00:35:52.353 --> 00:36:12.485
But the first floor had a really awkward kind of first room and the kitchen and living and but it was also so I was like a stagier is going to have to bring this together and I kid you not, I came over after she completed it and I think it's in the pictures first.

00:36:12.545 --> 00:36:14.454
I can't remember, I didn't even believe the pictures.

00:36:14.454 --> 00:36:14.996
I says how.

00:36:16.192 --> 00:36:28.005
I walked in and my jaw just dropped because I was like, wow, it just made it a home and I just couldn't believe it yeah, it was totally gives me chills.

00:36:28.085 --> 00:36:35.445
I know that feeling, I know that exact feeling when you walk in and you're just like in tears because you're like, oh my God, yes, this is exactly the vision.

00:36:35.445 --> 00:36:35.869
Yeah.

00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:39.030
I told my stagier I'm like you literally brought me to tears.

00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:50.257
She did a phenomenal job and it was you know little things, it wasn't a ton of staging, it was just the right amount and it just made everything come together and I just like, oh my God, we made this work.

00:36:50.257 --> 00:36:51.139
Yeah, Believe it.

00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:53.063
It was so rewarding, it was great.

00:36:53.351 --> 00:36:59.643
So three and a half months, bought it for a hundred K, put about 67 into it.

00:36:59.643 --> 00:37:04.268
What did y'all list it for?

00:37:04.268 --> 00:37:09.318
And was that the same ARV you went in thinking it would be?

00:37:10.065 --> 00:37:10.286
Yeah.

00:37:10.286 --> 00:37:14.949
So we ended up listening it for 215.

00:37:14.949 --> 00:37:32.452
But it did kind of change a little bit early on because we were playing with, you know, the little things that we were adding in the beginning, before we actually purchased the house, you know, when we weren't going to put the H back in because it had a mini split, and then it was like no, if you want to compete with you, you know you've got to do this.

00:37:32.452 --> 00:37:39.181
So then by adding that, even though increased our reno amount, it also increased the ARV.

00:37:39.844 --> 00:37:40.266
So then you know.

00:37:40.286 --> 00:37:44.271
so then we changed it then, and then, of course, the bathroom.

00:37:44.271 --> 00:37:52.199
That changed it a little bit, but by the time we were ready to sell we were, you know, at the beginning of our renovation it was 215.

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:59.733
And then because, like I said, that house closed the day we closed on our, our house for 215.

00:37:59.753 --> 00:38:04.818
I was like, okay, because at first we're kind of a little worried about, like you know, is it going to be?

00:38:04.838 --> 00:38:06.340
because the market was shifting a little bit.

00:38:06.340 --> 00:38:10.894
But then that happened and I was like, okay, I feel pretty darn confident with 215.

00:38:10.894 --> 00:38:14.284
So, yeah, we listed it at 215.

00:38:15.425 --> 00:38:15.887
And what?

00:38:15.887 --> 00:38:21.719
What was the reception like when you put it on the market?

00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.003
And then what happened?

00:38:23.003 --> 00:38:23.764
We put it on the market.

00:38:24.206 --> 00:38:33.331
We did have a coming soon, for like a couple of days, yes, and then put it on the market, on on a Friday and we did have a ton.

00:38:33.751 --> 00:38:39.059
I mean, I don't know the exact numbers, but we had some really good traffic with the house and the.

00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:43.804
The people were coming through it, but we didn't have any frizz yet.

00:38:43.804 --> 00:38:47.130
And that was what day two, when we were getting yeah, I know.

00:38:47.572 --> 00:38:48.893
And it felt so vulnerable.

00:38:48.893 --> 00:38:50.657
We're like putting it out there.

00:38:50.998 --> 00:38:53.456
Yeah, it's awful, it's so scary.

00:38:54.362 --> 00:38:54.784
It really is.

00:38:54.784 --> 00:38:56.648
We were getting good feedback.

00:38:56.648 --> 00:38:57.228
That it was.

00:38:57.228 --> 00:39:02.516
Everybody was liking the house, loving the house, was great, but it was just a little too small.

00:39:02.516 --> 00:39:05.827
So we're like, oh, great, so of course me.

00:39:05.907 --> 00:39:06.268
I'm like.

00:39:06.268 --> 00:39:09.655
They know the size of it, they know how many bedrooms there are.

00:39:09.655 --> 00:39:11.326
Why?

00:39:11.326 --> 00:39:16.820
Why are you so surprised that there's two bedrooms, two bathrooms and a kitchen?

00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:18.423
And I don't understand.

00:39:18.503 --> 00:39:18.704
Yeah.

00:39:18.905 --> 00:39:20.130
Oh my God, that's so funny.

00:39:20.130 --> 00:39:22.867
Yeah, so, but we were.

00:39:22.867 --> 00:39:32.248
We were convinced that, you know, it was just going to take that the right person you know just you know we need one buyer Right, so walk through there.

00:39:32.248 --> 00:39:42.289
So we kind of had to and our real estate agent really helped kind of ground us and just refocus, like hey, it's still early, guys, you know it's okay, and we were like freaking out.

00:39:42.289 --> 00:39:45.599
But she could kind of tell, like you know, don't get discouraged.

00:39:45.619 --> 00:39:47.804
Like you guys have a lot of traffic coming through.

00:39:47.804 --> 00:39:50.704
We still have open house on Sunday, like all these things.

00:39:50.704 --> 00:39:52.280
So a lot of showings.

00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.329
Yeah, yeah, we had a lot of showing, so the traffic was definitely there.

00:39:55.329 --> 00:39:55.931
It was good.

00:39:55.931 --> 00:40:03.190
So it was just kind of like, okay, let's just sit back and wait for that right person to come in, so when did you get your?

00:40:03.550 --> 00:40:07.358
did y'all get multiple offers, or did you get one offer, or how'd that go?

00:40:07.945 --> 00:40:09.327
So we did.

00:40:09.327 --> 00:40:12.632
We got two offers, and so in what?

00:40:12.632 --> 00:40:12.972
The third?

00:40:13.032 --> 00:40:17.119
day and then, we decided the next day on day four.

00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:17.300
Yeah.

00:40:17.905 --> 00:40:34.699
Yeah Well, yeah, I think it had been four days on market when we had had the two offers come in and I don't know, my real estate agent I don't know if she just kind of assumed that they were full price offers, but she's like I'll come over and we'll go through them and in my mind, immediately, like what's wrong?

00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:35.222
They're not.

00:40:35.222 --> 00:40:36.909
They're not good, they're low off.

00:40:36.909 --> 00:40:37.871
Why aren't you telling?

00:40:37.871 --> 00:40:40.320
Us what they are and she's like no, just wait.

00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:41.784
We're like, why are we waiting?

00:40:42.427 --> 00:40:44.960
We're so human, we're so human.

00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.286
What's wrong so?

00:40:46.327 --> 00:40:50.804
she came over and she said no, no, they're both really great offers.

00:40:51.186 --> 00:40:58.804
It's just a matter of going through and kind of figuring out which details and which best fits what you guys are looking to do and whatnot.

00:40:59.244 --> 00:41:12.240
So they were both full price offers, but there was one that had an escalating cause of up to I think it was 222,000.

00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:19.599
And they also had an appraisal gap coverage of $5,000.

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.012
So we knew right away that, okay, you know, it wasn't just because of that.

00:41:25.012 --> 00:41:26.612
There was other things too with the other offer.

00:41:26.612 --> 00:41:39.907
But the fact that this, these buyers were so invested in it and you could just tell that just by that they were really, really wanting to get it I mean, we've been there before looking for houses ourselves, so you know.

00:41:39.907 --> 00:41:42.695
But what really put the icing on the cake?

00:41:42.695 --> 00:41:49.077
And I think we decided to go with them because they even had an inspection on it with the other one didn't.

00:41:50.206 --> 00:41:59.516
And we decided to go with this one because they were first time home buyers and there was something about that that just really resonated with us.

00:41:59.516 --> 00:42:02.534
And I looked at my real estate agent and I was like it's a no brainer.

00:42:02.534 --> 00:42:04.708
I mean, let's go for the inspection.

00:42:04.708 --> 00:42:07.275
I know that we did everything we could with this house to make it right.

00:42:07.275 --> 00:42:10.610
I was a little bit worried that something could come up.

00:42:10.610 --> 00:42:18.617
Sure, but I feel confident and I just feel really good about providing this house to the new home buyers.

00:42:18.617 --> 00:42:21.760
So it was such a cool good feeling.

00:42:21.945 --> 00:42:22.807
It was a cool feeling yeah.

00:42:22.807 --> 00:42:24.653
I was on speakerphone at work.

00:42:24.653 --> 00:42:27.998
I was with the Realtor and then she's like, what do you pick?

00:42:27.998 --> 00:42:29.784
And I picked it, and then she picked it and it was like a game show.

00:42:31.367 --> 00:42:37.516
We're like you know cool, and because they have that escalating whistle for 216.

00:42:39.905 --> 00:42:40.427
Nice.

00:42:40.427 --> 00:42:42.431
Did anything come up on the inspection?

00:42:45.730 --> 00:42:46.614
So okay.

00:42:46.614 --> 00:42:48.804
So nothing to everything actually looked really good.

00:42:48.804 --> 00:42:50.744
There was one thing they came back at.

00:42:50.744 --> 00:43:04.869
So in this house in the basement it had the dirt walls and so there's the we put up vapor barrier on the bottom of the floor Floor joists.

00:43:04.869 --> 00:43:23.527
Well they, I guess, through kind of their initial inspection of other things, of how things kind of looked around in there, they were worried as new home buyers and which can understand that they couldn't see the joists of an almost 100 year old house, you know, because they were all covered up.

00:43:23.527 --> 00:43:29.117
So they said they came back and they wanted us to give them a $3,000 credit just in case.

00:43:30.025 --> 00:43:31.530
We do, just in case credits.

00:43:32.985 --> 00:43:35.273
I know right, Joys needed to be replaced.

00:43:36.346 --> 00:43:38.869
Just thinking worst case scenario, right so?

00:43:38.869 --> 00:43:39.929
So what did they have me do?

00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:41.572
She's like so well, yeah.00:43:41.572 --> 00:43:48.280


So I had the conversation with my real estate agent and I said I will take that vapor barrier down.00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.025


You know I had no problem.00:43:50.025 --> 00:43:53.050


Yeah, I said you know let's do that.00:43:53.050 --> 00:43:57.695


So she said okay, let me present it to them and see if they're willing.00:43:57.695 --> 00:44:07.552


If you take it down which I won't be putting it back up, but if I take it down and show them that everything is okay, would they be willing to do that?00:44:07.592 --> 00:44:11.177


And they agreed and so you rip that hard work down.00:44:11.177 --> 00:44:16.072


Yeah, that was not hard, more hours of hard work.00:44:16.413 --> 00:44:19.659


Yeah, yeah, but you know what?00:44:19.659 --> 00:44:30.784


I knew that I was doing it for good reason and so, yeah, they came back out with their contractor and expected everything and as as it you know, it was it, everything was fine.00:44:30.784 --> 00:44:32.809


And they said, okay, let's, let's move forward.00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:34.333


And they're not asking for anything.00:44:34.333 --> 00:44:37.021


So we're like, how do you praise God?00:44:37.021 --> 00:44:43.795


And we were able to move forward, so everybody was happy closed and got paid the biggest check she's ever held.00:44:43.996 --> 00:44:44.938


So yeah, okay.00:44:44.938 --> 00:44:46.342


So what was the profit?00:44:47.324 --> 00:44:47.724


drum roll.00:44:47.724 --> 00:44:57.804


So our profit obviously the check they handed over was much larger because you know you're paying off everything else, but our profit ended up being just under 23,000.00:44:58.326 --> 00:45:03.614


Three and a half months 23 grand doing something you absolutely love.00:45:05.217 --> 00:45:05.458


Yep.00:45:05.657 --> 00:45:05.938


Yes.00:45:06.099 --> 00:45:06.800


I mean come on.00:45:08.204 --> 00:45:08.525


I know.00:45:08.914 --> 00:45:09.856


Congratulations.00:45:09.856 --> 00:45:10.737


It was fun.00:45:10.737 --> 00:45:19.269


Yeah, it was fun and challenging, but we loved it and we're ready.00:45:19.269 --> 00:45:20.456


We're ready to do it again.00:45:20.737 --> 00:45:21.559


Yay, for sure.00:45:22.619 --> 00:45:35.036


Yeah, I'm so happy for you guys and I just love your story because, like I mentioned earlier, we sometimes have to have that push that doesn't feel good in the moment.00:45:35.036 --> 00:45:45.702


Getting fired didn't feel good, a blow to the ego, a blow to the wallet, a blow to your view of yourself, right, like none of that feels good.00:45:45.702 --> 00:45:52.362


Yeah, and three weeks later you were under going under contract on your first slip.00:45:53.405 --> 00:45:53.826


Yeah.00:45:54.027 --> 00:45:58.679


And maybe four-ish months after that, or holding a fat check.00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:02.887


So jokes on you old employer Right, thank you.00:46:02.927 --> 00:46:08.021


And the fact that we got to touch so many people.00:46:08.021 --> 00:46:09.807


It's not just about us.00:46:09.869 --> 00:46:21.822


Like you, look at all the people that were involved in this scenario our real estate agent, our private money lender, the new home buyers, you know our contractors, just all the vendors.00:46:21.822 --> 00:46:26.514


You know that all got something out of this.00:46:26.514 --> 00:46:56.905


Yeah, all good things, you know, yeah, and that was one of my things that happened that I didn't realize that the experience that I was going to enjoy part of my favorite part of the flip was obviously the transformation, because, you know, seeing, being able to restore an old home like that, and the private money lender actually walked the property and his thoughts were he seems to be torn down.00:46:56.947 --> 00:46:57.688


The tear down.00:46:57.688 --> 00:46:58.389


I love it.00:46:58.389 --> 00:47:00.155


Cannot salvage this.00:47:00.155 --> 00:47:01.860


I'm telling more about that.00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:02.782


Yeah, exactly.00:47:03.083 --> 00:47:06.974


Yeah, so he got me sure that it was going to be okay.00:47:07.155 --> 00:47:08.179


So he was blown away.00:47:08.179 --> 00:47:09.344


It was a great feeling.00:47:09.364 --> 00:47:23.980


The transformation was cool, but my second one that I wasn't expecting and I don't hear a lot of people talk about this because maybe it doesn't happen for everybody but I got a chance to meet the new home buyers at closing and that was such a cool experience.00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:31.873


Just you know, just to talk with him, but for them to get up and shake my hand and look me in the eye and say, thank you, you, this house is awesome.00:47:31.873 --> 00:47:33.096


It's just what we were looking for.00:47:33.096 --> 00:47:38.628


All the special, special touches we we noticed, you know, and that was just such.00:47:38.628 --> 00:47:41.528


It just really was the icing on the cake on everything.00:47:41.528 --> 00:47:44.418


I just was like wow, I just doesn't stop.00:47:44.418 --> 00:47:49.737


The layers and layers and layers of emotion of this experience was just awesome, yeah.00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:51.420


I feel like we're.00:47:51.420 --> 00:47:52.543


We're very lucky.00:47:52.543 --> 00:47:57.139


You were lucky with our first, so I hear that a lot.00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:02.438


And no, you were prepared and you handled things when they came up and you just kept going.00:48:02.438 --> 00:48:03.402


Really, that's it.00:48:03.402 --> 00:48:04.144


You just kept going.00:48:04.746 --> 00:48:13.177


Yeah, I mean we, like, would look back at every single day and say, look, we've taken three steps forward and they're little but they're significant.00:48:13.177 --> 00:48:15.143


Because it was like paving the way.00:48:15.143 --> 00:48:17.831


And I journaled every single day.00:48:17.831 --> 00:48:26.197


I wrote three actions, I wrote my gratitudes, I wrote my why from March till today I mean I'm still doing it every day.00:48:26.197 --> 00:48:27.822


Yeah, that's amazing.00:48:27.862 --> 00:48:30.653


And I work and everyone's like Lindsay, I need this.00:48:30.653 --> 00:48:36.987


I'm like, hold on, I'm journaling five seconds later and I'm done, but I have it written down.00:48:36.987 --> 00:48:38.128


I love it.00:48:38.128 --> 00:48:42.449


Oh my God, I pull out my handy dandy notebook and journal myself away.00:48:42.449 --> 00:48:46.679


But yeah, I feel like that was just constantly.00:48:47.101 --> 00:48:47.240


Oh.00:48:48.143 --> 00:48:57.021


I love it, man, that mindset piece, man, that that module, when everyone thinks like I got this, that is so key.00:48:57.021 --> 00:49:00.391


You need, you need that module.00:49:00.391 --> 00:49:07.032


You need to learn it and revisit it and do it every day, especially if there's a partnership going on here.00:49:07.032 --> 00:49:11.005


One person needs you when they're at the 2%, you need to be the 98.00:49:11.005 --> 00:49:14.056


You need to lift them up and keep them under control.00:49:14.056 --> 00:49:15.780


Everyone moving forward, yeah.00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:16.882


I love that.00:49:16.882 --> 00:49:19.869


Well, you notice, I sneak it in in module two.00:49:19.869 --> 00:49:21.460


It really should be module one.00:49:21.460 --> 00:49:27.099


But if people come in and see that, straight away they're like oh no, no, no, no, no, what is this?00:49:27.099 --> 00:49:28.784


Weird sorcery stuff?00:49:28.784 --> 00:49:29.083


Yeah.00:49:29.083 --> 00:49:32.338


And so instead I just sneak it in in the second week.00:49:32.338 --> 00:49:34.746


I'm like okay, hey girl, let's do this.00:49:35.590 --> 00:49:40.425


Yeah, I definitely get it, it definitely get it now Per 100% Yep For sure.00:49:41.347 --> 00:49:42.391


Oh my gosh y'all.00:49:42.391 --> 00:49:43.875


I have loved this conversation.00:49:43.875 --> 00:49:47.786


I'm being mindful of the time because I'm sure you have somewhere else to be.00:49:47.786 --> 00:49:51.396


We cover everything you wanted to cover.00:49:51.396 --> 00:49:59.396


Was there anything that I left out or anything you wanted to add that you haven't said yet?00:49:59.396 --> 00:50:01.983


I like to make sure everybody feels comfortable.00:50:02.043 --> 00:50:22.536


I think for me is, you know, through this whole experience, that you know just to kind of you know, speak out to whoever might be listening is that if God places some thing on your heart that you're passionate about, is to you know, really kind of hone in on that and find out what is what brings you peace and joy.00:50:22.536 --> 00:50:36.199


You know Because, like you said, you know me losing my job was something that I would not have planned, but God has a way of kind of pushing us in and the universe of pushing us in the direction that we really need to go.00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.806


So, you know, I paid attention to that, I focused on that.00:50:38.806 --> 00:50:41.177


Oh, sorry about that.00:50:41.177 --> 00:50:42.802


Boy's bus is coming.00:50:42.802 --> 00:50:46.451


Honestly, this was.00:50:46.451 --> 00:50:47.914


This is the book.00:50:47.934 --> 00:50:48.976


Is this time for me?00:50:48.976 --> 00:50:49.277


Yeah.00:50:49.478 --> 00:50:59.670


When I because we listened to your podcast back in COVID, I think COVID, and I told her about it I was like you got there's.00:50:59.670 --> 00:51:00.572


This is awesome.00:51:00.572 --> 00:51:05.748


There's women sharing their story get inspired, you know that kind of thing and it was so.00:51:05.748 --> 00:51:08.398


It was so fun to just listen to people's stories.00:51:08.398 --> 00:51:13.139


But as we're sitting there listening, you don't never think you're going to be in this position.00:51:13.139 --> 00:51:17.353


So when we were signing up for your program, I told, was it Amy?00:51:17.353 --> 00:51:19.360


I don't remember.00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:23.733


But I said you know, just me kind of being like you know, I don't know.00:51:23.733 --> 00:51:25.561


I was like I'm going to be on that podcast.00:51:25.621 --> 00:51:26.547


She did say that.00:51:26.706 --> 00:51:32.146


I love it you know, I was just kind of like wow, I'm going to be a little overconfident here, but that was.00:51:32.146 --> 00:51:36.903


You know, I felt that I was like I want to, I want to do what they're doing.00:51:36.903 --> 00:51:49.179


I know there's a real, there's a real people doing real things, and so that was it was a goal, and the fact that we're sitting here right now just completing a podcast with you is amazing.00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:49.802


It's amazing.00:51:49.802 --> 00:51:51.445


It's so cool.00:51:51.445 --> 00:51:52.527


It's so freaking cool.00:51:52.527 --> 00:51:54.856


I love it.00:51:54.856 --> 00:51:56.521


It gives me chills, it really does.00:51:57.202 --> 00:52:01.038


Well, thank you, I really appreciate it Absolutely.00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:01.760


You're welcome.00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.010


Thank you for sharing your story.00:52:04.010 --> 00:52:05.715


Thank you for letting us be part of your journey.00:52:05.715 --> 00:52:08.181


Thanks for trusting us to be part of your journey.00:52:08.181 --> 00:52:13.302


Like it's a, it's a real honor and it's a real gift that we get to be part of your journey.00:52:13.302 --> 00:52:14.766


So thanks you guys.00:52:16.175 --> 00:52:16.936


Thank you so much.00:52:16.998 --> 00:52:18.842


We are so, so blessed.00:52:18.842 --> 00:52:19.744


I'm so thankful.00:52:19.744 --> 00:52:20.286


Thank you.00:52:20.896 --> 00:52:21.557


I'll let y'all go.00:52:21.557 --> 00:52:28.157


The boys bus is coming, I hear it actually you have someone lined up to get in, okay, good.00:52:28.358 --> 00:52:29.420


Go play with your kids.00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:31.103


Thanks, you guys.00:52:31.103 --> 00:52:34.018


Thanks, debbie See y'all in the group All right, bye.00:52:35.943 --> 00:52:36.463


So great.00:52:36.463 --> 00:52:38.048


I love that conversation.00:52:38.048 --> 00:52:45.612


Thanks again for sharing your story with us, tammy and Lindsay, because I know it will inspire others to go do the thing.00:52:45.612 --> 00:52:47.217


Go chase this dream they have.00:52:47.217 --> 00:52:58.239


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All right, until next time.00:53:20.224 --> 00:53:26.043


Go out there, flip houses like a girl, leave people in places better than you find them and make it a great day.00:53:26.043 --> 00:53:26.826


Bye, y'all.